The text of the certificate of the Ministers of Interior and former serious and Issawi in private meetings for the "trial" Mubarak
Among the certificates that keen adviser Ahmed Refaat, sued the trial of the century to make it a secret, a certificate two brigades Mahmoud Wagdy, and Mansour Al-Issawi, the Ministers of Interior of former, who Naqsthma Court in the events of the revolution on January 25, and their information about the charge for the killing of demonstrators in during and Drew defendants in the events.Mahmoud Wagdy former interior minister in his testimony before the court that he must follow the instructions legal in the launch of cartouche demonstrations, and that it be launched at an angle of 45 degrees, and direct Slot Venice of the land, and at a distance of 3 meters at least from the demonstrators, which leads to reflux of the contents of caliber cartridge afflicts the feet of the demonstrators, away from the upper region of the body, and is, according to the same position, to be back to lead the security forces.He said the security sector Central by forces known as the resolution of the riot, be armed helmet and shield and sticks and cartridges, and there are other elements known as the "Saraya support" consists of officer and 6 pawns, armed armament automatic, and its mission to be, especially in the storming of the nests of drug or hitting a terrorist cell or the focus of a criminal, as well as the formation of the last named "special operations", the training of higher level and lead work in the major tasks.And the snipers, said Grandfather: they Outstanding officers in the fire hit, receiving training in the armed forces, and then return to the police, and is arming its own sniper rifle, and there is the Ministry of Interior arming sniper laser.According to the experience of security and my Grandfather was denied landing forces snipers to Tahrir Square in the demonstrations, and imagined that in the profile in the case of increasing the number of protestors for police forces to the Minister of the Interior to find political solutions, or assisted by the armed forces.The Grandfather and the events of the 1977 days of the late President Sadat, and the events of the Central Security in 1986, explained that the interior ministers at that time used the armed forces after the outbreak of demonstrations a few hours.The Court has been asked about the ability of the Minister of the Interior to make the decision to fire on the demonstrators without reference to the President of the Republic, he replied that my Grandfather and Article 102 of the Police Act provides for the use of weapons demonstrations in case of necessity and self-defense.And pointed out that after my Grandfather oath met with Mubarak, the former president asked him: "Police news eh?" .. He replied: "Oh repented of all the officers and individuals have left their places and went to their homes, and the police in case of loose and need to efforts to return again", was the guidance of the former president has quickly assembling troops and coordination with the army, and he began to direct his work from the Office of State Security in Nasr City .He said police took place in a fatal error when shut down Tahrir Square, and the injuries and deaths were the result of chaos or individual cases of self-defense, in addition to the presence of foreign elements into the country to demolish the prison and went to the field of editing, and that dialogue was between him and the accused Ahmed Ramzy told him through that his forces tried to prevent the demonstrators from reaching the field of chaos occurred, and denied that his forces symbolic shot in the face of the demonstrators, because he did not issue instructions from Habib el-Adli and former interior minister.And feet and my Grandfather was a copy of the letter received from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs to the Minister of the Interior at the time of 18 Fberaaram 2011 from the Office of the representation of Egypt in Ramallah, which read as follows: "Mr. Brigadier General Mohammad Hejazi, Assistant Minister of the Interior .. Greetings .. I have the honor to our office Bram God, citing sources from the Gaza Strip, notes recently and there are dozens of cars smuggled from Egypt, which is still a conditional license plates and the Government of Egypt, and has been viewed two cars belonging to the central security within Gaza ..He noted that he shall also inform the U.S. Embassy steal a number of vehicles of their garage Sheikh Rihan, and that he was kidnapped 3 officers and the Secretary of police personnel Security Department of North Sinai, and that, according to information which has has been in custody of the Hamas movement, and that there are weapons of lost police from different sections estimated at around 1000 pieces a weapon.He completed his testimony: "During my work as a minister has been restored part of the missing weapons, items were seized in Tahrir Square between Arabs and foreigners.He and my Grandfather in his testimony that the operation to storm the prison was by Palestinian elements to smuggle relatives of police stations attacked by thugs, and that the cars of the police were not run over protesters, but trying to escape, and that there are elements that were mobilized to encroach on the police cars and burning, and in response to a question by claiming the right Civil on the plan of 100, he said a plan in place for the deployment of forces around vital installations.Following the end of my Grandfather and his testimony Mubarak refused to comment on it as usual, saying: "No comments" .. And the rest of the defendants shouted "no thanks", other than the accused Omar Faramawy, former security chief in October, which decided that it was in October did not leave his work, and confirmed that the witness speak.In another session is also confidential court heard the testimony of Mansour Issawi and former interior minister, who confirmed that the number of soldiers the 290 thousand soldiers only at the level of the Republic, and that got them into the street at the time of events 181 thousand troops, and arming the usual in the demonstrations is the shield and batons and tear gas tear, and repairs up to the robot in the case of chasing the terrorist operations.He added that he does not know the use of lead in the revolution of January 25, and that he can not use bullets cartouche under orders from the leaders, and in the event of its launch on the rebels resulting in death if the distance is close, and confirmed the presence of snipers in the interior, but stressed that it can not be used in demonstrations, and often the role of snipers break the prisoners and hostages, and that the officers, snipers attached to all police agencies.He told the court that he is not correct according to the logic that the Central Security soldiers fired live bullets at the demonstrators, and the only deaths were in the thousands, and the number of soldiers was only 800, while the number of demonstrators increased to 300 thousand people.In response to a question to the Court about the possibility of the President's intervention in general to maintain the integrity and security of the homeland, and how to deal in the case of mass demonstrations? .. Answered Issawi that the law and the Constitution guarantee to the President of that command, and the right to issue an order to shoot at demonstrators if he considers that this Eetmhay and interests of the country, and in this case assisted by the Committee on national security in the institution of the presidency to make the decision, adding he did not know if Mubarak issued an order to the Adeli killing of demonstrators.Saw Issawi he was not aware of the role carried out by the defendants, Ahmed Ramzy, head of the central security before, and Adly Fayed, director of security the previous year, Hassan Abdel Rahman, Director of the State Security Service before, and Ismail Shaer, Director of the Cairo Security Former and Osama anchors Director of Giza Security, and the age of Faramawy October, former director of security at the time of the events of the revolution, he told the court the letter: "I do not know," but in the end, all information is up to the Minister of the Interior, and he did not come to involve words or material evidence to condemn the accused.The Issawi that Adli can not take unilateral decision to fire on the demonstrators, but after consulting the President of the Republic, except for the case of legitimate self-defense, such as the defense of police stations and prisons, and confirmed that the armored police include a person armed with a weapon to, and in the case of shooting a single bullet it can kill 15 demonstrators.And detect the presence of surveillance cameras in the field of editing in order to the Secretary of the Interior to monitor what is going on in the field, and in response to a question of the defense: "Do you come as a minister of the interior and devices for the officers and soldiers who have been mentioned Mjhla order of referral," he replied: There Jhtan are responsible for this, both the Commission finding facts and the public prosecutor.
